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    HD FLAC files as source music files - Some FREE downloads

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    harpy

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    Post by harpy on Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:37 pm

    Yea I was looking into the PS3 to rip my SACD. I have the correct model, but the firmware is 3.7. Downgrading the firmware can be done, but is a pain. I have a program that will pull audio tracks from Blu-Rays. Some emersion packs have Blu-Rays that contain a 2 channel HD version of the album (Dark Side of the Moon). I am not promoting hacking, but I have some SACD I can't play and if I ever drop $120 on an emersion pack, I consider moving the audio from the disc to my computer fair game.
    I have bought some HD music here: https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php
    I have just built a tiny computer that plays HD music (ATV2 before). Dac tops out at 96/24, but my upgrade should be here Tuesday and let me enter the 192/24 world. Thanks Bob, very interesting.

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    Post by bigsmall on Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:47 am

    BOB.
    Thank again

    harpy

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    Post by harpy on Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:48 pm

    Actually found a service on EBay that will flash your PS3 to version 3.55 and do a full cleaning for $60. Cheaper than the E-Flasher. Rounded up and downloaded the ripping software last night. May give it a whirl.

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    Post by DarthBubba on Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:22 pm

    Hey Bob; thanks for all these tracks. cheers I hope that you can cycle through them a few times so that those of us late to the party can get access to the ones that have already been taken down due to space limits. Sleep

    Sprags

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    Post by Sprags on Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:49 am

    After hearing a few songs by Diana Krall I bought the CD 'The Girl In The Other Room' at a store in town that sells used CD's. I enjoyed it very much. When I saw Bob uploaded some more Diana Krall songs I thought I'd really enjoy them. To be honest when I connected my laptop to my preamp with a 3.5mm to RCA interconnect cable I wasn't really crazy about the sound. Perhaps it's the FLAC player I have. I found a couple of free ones and I think they're bad. I need to find the codec that lets me use Windows Media Player as a FLAC player.

    I guess I should have also checked the downloads of some of the songs. I didn't and when I finally checked them out they were distorted and the overall sound quality is terrible.

    Not sure why that happened. I found that if I download each song separately I have better luck. When I downloaded them as a group in one zip file I've had bad luck. Not sure why...just that it did what it did.

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    Post by hawaii.ken on Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:54 am

    Sprags wrote:I need to find the codec that lets me use Windows Media Player as a FLAC player.
    Have you tried foobar2000?

    Sprags

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    Post by Sprags on Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:06 am

    Nope...I'll track it down and give it a shot.

    What I did find a few weeks ago was a freeware FLAC player for my iPad 3. It actually played the first songs I downloaded pretty good and sonically the musically good. Unfortunately it only played the first 2 minutes then stopped. I forgot the name but I think the complete version was 5 bucks. I'd like to find out if I transfer the songs to a wifi HDD I got specifically for my iPad3 if it will play the songs on that HDD through my iPad. If it will then I don't have problem going that route. It's a 500 gig HDD and the iPad3 isn't as noisy as the laptop nor does it get hot like the laptop. The laptop really needs a cooler and the fans are loud. ...sure wish there was a USB port on the iPad. That's my only complaint.

    Bob Latino
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    Post by Bob Latino on Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:21 am

    Sprags wrote:After hearing a few songs by Diana Krall I bought the CD 'The Girl In The Other Room' at a store in town that sells used CD's. I enjoyed it very much. When I saw Bob uploaded some more Diana Krall songs I thought I'd really enjoy them. To be honest when I connected my laptop to my preamp with a 3.5mm to RCA interconnect cable I wasn't really crazy about the sound. Perhaps it's the FLAC player I have. I found a couple of free ones and I think they're bad. I need to find the codec that lets me use Windows Media Player as a FLAC player.

    I guess I should have also checked the downloads of some of the songs. I didn't and when I finally checked them out they were distorted and the overall sound quality is terrible.

    Not sure why that happened. I found that if I download each song separately I have better luck. When I downloaded them as a group in one zip file I've had bad luck. Not sure why...just that it did what it did.

    Hi Blake,

    To really hear HD tracks as you should from a PC, you need a better DAC than the DAC that is found in your laptop computer. When you use the miniplug out to a dual RCA connector from your laptop, you are using the laptop's DAC and then sending the signal to your amp (or preamp) in the analog domain. Any DAC found inside a computer is usually of low quality and was put in the computer to keep the price down. Don't expect too much from any DAC found inside a computer.

    I think all "tower" type computers have an RCA digital out on the back. Laptop computers AFAIK do not have a digital out but they do have a few USB ports. There are upgrade DAC's out there that will plug direcly into the USB port of a laptop and will pick up the digital signal through the USB line inside your computer. Even the inexpensive Chinese USB DAC's that you can buy on Ebay for $100 - $150 or so will sound much better than the DAC inside the computer. Earlier in this thread the USA made Schitt Modi ($99) DAC was mentioned.

    If you have a tower type computer, you can also change out the sound card - BUT - really good sound cards cost more than a high quality outboard DAC.

    Bob

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    Post by Sprags on Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:23 pm

    Connecting my ipad the same way as the laptop players the music fine. The laptop players music terribly the same way.

    DarthBubba

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    Post by DarthBubba on Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:10 pm

    Bob Latino wrote: I think all "tower" type computers have an RCA digital out on the back. Laptop computers AFAIK do not have a digital out but they do have a few USB ports. There are upgrade DAC's out there that will plug direcly into the USB port of a laptop and will pick up the digital signal through the USB line inside your computer. Even the inexpensive Chinese USB DAC's that you can buy on Ebay for $100 - $150 or so will sound much better than the DAC inside the computer. Earlier in this thread the USA made Schitt Modi ($99) DAC was mentioned.

    If you have a tower type computer, you can also change out the sound card - BUT - really good sound cards cost more than a high quality outboard DAC. Bob

    My motherboard certainly has an S/PDIF output and an input connector that requires purchase of an input cable, but do motherboards have reasonably high quality digitizers? The bigger issue for me is the whole business of getting the analogue (disk->phono preamp->out) signal on to the computer so that I can FLAC it. I'm not finding a lot of ADCs (as opposed to DACs) out there. There's the NAD PP-3i, but what else? There are tube DACs, are there any tube ADCs? (Just to stay on topic).

    How did you do it, Bob?

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    Post by Bob Latino on Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:23 pm

    I have two computers here .. My personal business (tower type) computer and my wife's Dell laptop. For playing FLAC files on my tower type computer, I used the digital out into a Bel Canto DAC 2 DAC (24 bits @ up to 192 KHz) that I had on another system. The other system now has a Sony 5400 SACD player with a built in DAC. The Bel Canto DAC directly feeds a VTA ST-120 in my workshop and I use the stepped attenuator on the VTA ST-120 to control volume. The DAC makes a big difference in sound quality over the DAC inside the computer.

    I don't create the FLAC files myself. I get them from from someone who knows how to create the HD FLAC files.

    Bob

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    Post by DarthBubba on Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:32 pm

    Bob Latino wrote: I don't create the FLAC files myself. I get them from from someone who knows how to create the HD FLAC files.
    Bob

    So could he write a short tutorial on how he does it?

    Seriously, I'm not real sure that I trust the RealTek sound chip in my computer. It's much louder on the right channel than the left during playback. I'd rather have an external ADC feeding into the computer via the USB, or S/PDIF.

    Just as a point of amusement; do any of the FLAC codecs use video card GPUs during the lossless compression?

    harpy

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    Post by harpy on Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:08 pm

    M-audio make some nice stuff: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Audiophile192.html

    http://www.m-audio.com/layout/imgview.php?i=/images/en/connectivity/big/audiophile_192.gif

    DarthBubba

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    Post by DarthBubba on Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:32 pm

    harpy wrote: M-audio make some nice stuff: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Audiophile192.html

    http://www.m-audio.com/layout/imgview.php?i=/images/en/connectivity/big/audiophile_192.gif

    This item must be quite new, there is no downloadable manual for it on their site.

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    Post by Bob Latino on Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:43 pm

    Here is a link with an explanation of how to use the Sony PS3 Playstation player to rip SACD's to 24 bit PCM (WAV files). You then put the WAV file into the FLAC program and then have FLAC ENCODE the 24 bit WAV file to a 24 bit FLAC file.

    How to make 24 bit FLAC files from SACD

    Bob

    harpy

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    Post by harpy on Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:31 pm

    http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/manuals/AP192_UG_EN1.pdf

    Manual, it's in their Delta Series.

    DarthBubba

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    Post by DarthBubba on Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:24 am

    harpy wrote:http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/manuals/AP192_UG_EN1.pdf

    Manual, it's in their Delta Series.

    Not the most intuitive labeling. Embarassed But they have Win 7 x86 and x64 drivers! cheers Seeing Win XP-SP1 listed as the latest OS in their manual was a bit scary for a moment. affraid

    Any idea about the price? That's probably scary too...

    harpy

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    Post by harpy on Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:08 am

    Amazon has them new for $125.00 and a used one for $80.00.

    DarthBubba

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    Post by DarthBubba on Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:01 pm

    harpy wrote:Amazon has them new for $125.00 and a used one for $80.00.

    I'm at work and am blocked from Amazon by my employer's firewall (but not blocked from DynacoTubeAudio, thankfully).

    I see that the M-Audio 192 uses TRS connectors, A.K.A. phone plugs, rather than RCA plugs. Looks like I may have to warm up the soldering iron again. Laughing

    harpy

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    Post by harpy on Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:20 pm

    Amazon has TSR to RCA cables for $6.11.

    DarthBubba

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    Post by DarthBubba on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:31 pm

    harpy wrote:Amazon has TSR to RCA cables for $6.11.

    Why buy when I can build? I just need to get a couple of phone plugs and I'm off to the races. I wonder if Rat Shack still carries such parts.

    vintess

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    Post by vintess on Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:19 pm

    Bob, my friend..., you have dated yourself!

    Seriously though, thanks a bunch for making this music available to us. There is no better music than music from the '60's and 70's.

    Thanks again!

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    Post by Bob Latino on Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:54 pm

    Hi All ...,

     The classic pop/rock HD tracks posted tomorrow Sunday, 7/7/13 will be the last set of HD tracks for a while ... I have run out of new tracks to post ..

    If I have the good fortune to get more HD tracks in the future, I will place a post on this thread alerting forum members that new tracks have been posted ...

    Bob

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    Foobar2000

    Post by Windup on Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:54 am

    The free program Foobar 2000 will rip directly to flac format. I did not have to install a flac encoder after installing foobar2000
    http://www.foobar2000.org/download

    Unfortunately I do not have the hardware to play the SACD layer of a CD on my PC. If you do Foobar2000 should be able to rip it.

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    Post by arledgsc on Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:43 am

    Thank you again Bob.... Good selection today. The "Fish Cheer"! It has been many moons since I heard that one but looking forward to it after the download.

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