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    Post by bluemeanies Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:42 pm

    I had always in my search for that near perfect sound been willing to spend a little more than what I originally proposed for my budget.  It's human nature.
    Over the years I have spent enough money for several systems always wanting improvement both in my equipment and listening experience.
    It took me a long time to realize how quickly I become disappointed after purchasing a piece of audio equipment (speakers, amps, processor) since sound quality quickly disappears once I set things up in my room.  My room is ascouticlly balanced and was designed NOT to be the perfect square or rectangle for both HT and 2channel listening.  Yet I have never quite experienced the same quality in sound in my home as I have in a Home and Audio B&M store.  
    On my recent quest for attaining the live experience, the movement of a guitarist's hand moving back and forth on the frets of a guitar, the clear sound of Diana Krall's walking her fingers up and down the keyboard I thought I would consider stepping up my speakers to a higher level.  Thinking that is what I will have to do to attain a higher quality of sound.  

    I had spent many hours searching and listening to all kinds of speakers.  I was discouraged but determined.  The speakers that I was listening to and comparing with my B&W804S were IMO not worth trading in and having to spend additional funds.  After more than one demonstration I sat and listened to what I have and realized the value I would receive in a trade to own a better pair of speakers was not worth it in dollars.
    The search was still on.
    I later became friends on another forum with a generous gentleman who decided to lend a hand an guide me to what we both agreed we wanted to hear from a recording and how he had attained his dream system.  He invited me to take a listen to his partially handmade, hands on 2channel system.  
    It was comprised of Bob Latino's m125 mono-blocks driving a pair of Dynaudio Gemini speakers using a Grace Design m920 high resolution monitoring system.  The speakers came in a kit and are not available at present.  The m125's need no explanation.

    From the first recording which by the way came from Tidal, the recording was very open and spatial.  It much sounded like a live recording with the artist in the room center stage and I,  seated in the front row.  Every note played was as if the artist was there in the room and for the first time in my audio experience I found out what is meant by the WARMTH presented in listening to TUBE AMPLIFIERS, Bob Latino' M-125's were exquisite to the taste of my music palate.
    The physical appeal to the M-125's were industrial.  The power was INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH!  The transformers were painted black and as I was told I would be able to paint them any color I would chose....FERRARI RED?...a thought.  Looking at the chassis of the M-125 (16 gauge are my thoughts) I would compare its build quality to a military tank made from brushed stainless steel.  Rough, tough and ready.
    I have found that my 500 watt mono-blocks while having the power and giving me plenty of headroom have cheated me with presentation, sound quality and nuances that I have experience with the M-125's
    Sonically the M-125's are fast and open.
    IMHO when it comes to any audio products it boils down to parts, tubes or solid state.  The quality of parts put into the M-125's are without reproach.  Like many I have spent countless hours on AUDIOGON and Audio Mart searching and re-searching for a quality piece amplifier while having Bob Latino's masterful amplifiers right in front of my face.  
    I also understand the allure for such amplifiers such as McIntosh which are very well constructed and thought out in engineering design but have always thought that there are other manufactures out there that are not nearly as costly and give a better bang for the buck.
    Bob's VTA M-125 tube amplifiers deliver that approach and in its first performance in MY presence delivered clarity, detail and warmth for a fraction of the cost of what McIntosh and many others deliver.

    I finally found my Golden Fleece.  Very Happy

    Frank
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    Post by deepee99 Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:19 pm

    Welcome to Tommy's Holiday Camp!

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    Post by audiobill Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:28 pm

    Welcome, Frank- great review!
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    Post by deepee99 Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:38 pm

    Yes, indeed.
    I bet for an additional 10 grand or so Mr. Latino could offer some cool blue meters...
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    Post by pedrocols Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:35 pm

    Welcome!
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    Post by Tube Nube Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:37 pm

    You've come to the right place alright!
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    Post by Roy Mottram Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:42 pm

    welcome to the world of Tubes4HiFi, 1/4th the cost and 4X as good as the rest !!
    OK, well maybe just as good as the very best available, at 1/4th the cost !!
    Enjoy the music !!
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    Post by Frank111 Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:07 pm

    I enjoyed your review. I have a set of M125's that should arrive tomorrow. I'm going to take the day off and wait for them to come! I find it amazing that you can get this kind of performance without spending tons of money. This is very encouraging. I will be going slow on my build. No rush. Good to know what the end result will be.

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    Post by 10-E-C Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:39 pm

    Every night when I fire my recent build M125's up the music just makes me smile. I just wish I had these amps a long long time ago..

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    Post by bluemeanies Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:36 pm

    Thanks everyone. I am looking forward to purchasing my m125's. I still cannot get over the accuracy of tube amplifiers compared to solid state performance. I will never go back to solid state listening. The entire performance had me wrapped in the overall experience.
    I have already sold some of my equipment to envision my dream. Although it has been several months since I have been involve with this quest I can see my port of call on the horizon.
    I am in the process of re-designing my dedicated room. Soon to be completed in the next week or two. By mid April I am hoping to order the m125's..still have some pieces up for sale but I am on my way.
    There ain't no stopping me now!
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    Post by deepee99 Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:13 pm

    bluemeanies wrote:Thanks everyone.  I am looking forward to purchasing my m125's.  I still cannot get over the accuracy of tube amplifiers compared to solid state performance.  I will never go back to solid state listening.  The entire performance had me wrapped in the overall experience.
    I have already sold some of my equipment to envision my dream.  Although it has been several months since I have been involve with this quest I can see my port of call on the horizon.  
    I am in the process of re-designing my dedicated room.  Soon to be completed in the next week or two.  By mid April I am hoping to order the m125's..still have some pieces up for sale but I am on my way.
    There ain't no stopping me now!
    Bluemeanies,
    Again, welcome to the holiday camp.
    I regret to inform that your search will not end with the M-125s. Having thus been spoiled, you will then begin wondering about preamps, in which case shop for one of Roy's superb SP-13 or -14 line pre-amps at tubes4hifi. The -13 just blew my mind. You might want to hire MontanaWay or Tmadden on this board to build 'em, unless your eyesight and resistor-band colours knowledge is way better than mine.
    Fun thing is, you can do all of this for about the cost of one used sand amp Mac 2125, and be much happier. This gang won't let you down.

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    Post by bluemeanies Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:09 am

    deepee99 wrote:
    bluemeanies wrote:Thanks everyone.  I am looking forward to purchasing my m125's.  I still cannot get over the accuracy of tube amplifiers compared to solid state performance.  I will never go back to solid state listening.  The entire performance had me wrapped in the overall experience.
    I have already sold some of my equipment to envision my dream.  Although it has been several months since I have been involve with this quest I can see my port of call on the horizon.  
    I am in the process of re-designing my dedicated room.  Soon to be completed in the next week or two.  By mid April I am hoping to order the m125's..still have some pieces up for sale but I am on my way.
    There ain't no stopping me now!
    Bluemeanies,
    Again, welcome to the holiday camp.
    I regret to inform that your search will not end with the M-125s. Having thus been spoiled, you will then begin wondering about preamps, in which case shop for one of Roy's superb SP-13 or -14 line pre-amps at tubes4hifi. The -13 just blew my mind. You might want to hire MontanaWay or Tmadden on this board to build 'em, unless your eyesight and resistor-band colours knowledge is way better than mine.
    Fun thing is, you can do all of this for about the cost of one used sand amp Mac 2125, and be much happier. This gang won't let you down.


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    To quote the wife "This will never end".
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    Post by deepee99 Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:41 am

    Bluemeanies, remember the audiophile's prayer:
    "Dear Lord, should I die before she, please don't let my wife sell my audio gear for what I told her I paid for it."
    And yes, it never quite ends. That's the fun of it. Just don't go wasting thousands on cables; that's a racket. Money's much better spent on toobs and speakers. Start with tubes. They're easier to smuggle into the house.




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