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    A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:54 pm

    I wrote this review with the non-techie newbie in mind. Many of you will find it amusing. And it will become quickly apparent that I’ve worked in Marketing…….

    Aural Ecstasy – The VTA ST-120 Power Amplifier

    In today’s cyber marketplace, it is almost a given that “seller feedback” is expected to be instant and automatic hyperbole – but it is rare that such extravagant praise is actually warranted. In the case of the VTA ST-120 power amp, designed after the venerable Dynaco ST-70 warhorse, but with completely upgraded and improved circuitry by Tubes4HiFi’s Bob Latino, and lovingly built for me by William Gratrix (forum name “Audiobill”), the expected superlatives actually pale in comparison to the experience I am having with this fantastic and affordable piece of audio equipment.
    In short, the ST-120 is a miracle. The sound quality, versatility, and value of this unit is comparable to amps costing four times as much. And affordable options, such as a protective 17 second time delay relay (to soften the power-up surge), a high-quality stepped attenuator which allows one to tailor input levels to a preamp optimum or even forego a preamp altogether, and available alternate output impedance taps (choose two of 4, 8, and 16 ohms) make this amp, delivered to my door within two weeks of my order, ready to plug-and-play with a well-selected set of eight fine tubes, a steal at $1732.
    At 60 WPC, the ST-120 can power even moderately inefficient speakers to satisfyingly punishing levels in a reasonably modest listening space. I have a set of notoriously power-hungry B&W Matrix 803s which are perfectly served by the VTA. {N.B. Older B&Ws will be found to sound much more controlled and smooth driven by the 4 ohm taps!}
    The standard-issue triode/ultralinear switching capability allows one to effectively alter the size and shape of the stereo image in a way which must be experienced to grasp. Triode mode will sound more intimate and laid-back to most ears, like a small club environment, while ultralinear mode might be likened to moving to arena-sized or concert hall ambience. Source and mood will dictate what sounds best at any given moment. It’s a great feature.
    But how does it sound? Well, the only way I can tell you is to state that the ST-120 is the closest thing to the ideal of “a wire with gain” that I’ve ever heard. Given good-quality sources, well-matched speakers, and a well-designed listening room, you can expect your gear to disappear, leaving nothing between you and your music. It doesn’t get any better than this, folks. Bass is naturally extended and as solid as your speakers can deliver, while highs are uncommonly detailed and smooth without any sense of harshness or fatigue. In short, miraculous.
    Several other things to note: this unit runs cooler than any comparable amp I’ve ever used. Top temperatures at a “full gallop” will climb no higher than 200F at most (measured by laser therm on the output tube plates.) Power transformer was measured at the same time at only 130F. This means that you are getting top-flight sound delivered efficiently by components which are being only conservatively driven. This amp is built to last, and further, it is designed to ensure that all tubes and components are going to remain well within proper tolerances for much longer than one might expect.
    It is worth noting that you can expect the sound of this unit to improve in subtle ways over the first hundred or so hours. I waited four days since I first powered it up to write this report. I’m not even close to getting the “full monty”!
    Add to this the incredibly responsive customer service that you can count on from both Bob L. and Bill G., who will patiently answer your questions – even dumb ones – and the fact that, should you have even a modicum of ability with a soldering iron, the amp is available in kit form for as little as $909, and the experience of buying a superb power amplifier which truly deserves rave ratings is yours.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by deepee99 on Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:56 pm

    Kentley wrote:I wrote this review with the non-techie newbie in mind. Many of you will find it amusing. And it will become quickly apparent  that I’ve worked in Marketing…….

    Aural Ecstasy – The VTA ST-120 Power Amplifier

    In today’s cyber marketplace, it is almost a given that “seller feedback” is expected to be instant and automatic hyperbole – but it is rare that such extravagant praise is actually warranted. In the case of the VTA ST-120 power amp, designed after the venerable Dynaco ST-70 warhorse, but with completely upgraded and improved circuitry by Tubes4HiFi’s Bob Latino, and lovingly built for me by William Gratrix (forum name “Audiobill”), the expected superlatives actually pale in comparison to the experience I am having with this fantastic and affordable piece of audio equipment.
    In short, the ST-120 is a miracle. The sound quality, versatility, and value of this unit is comparable to amps costing four times as much. And affordable options, such as a protective 17 second time delay relay (to soften the power-up surge), a high-quality stepped attenuator which allows one to tailor input levels to a preamp optimum or even forego a preamp altogether, and available alternate output impedance taps (choose two of 4, 8, and 16 ohms) make this amp, delivered to my door within two weeks of my order, ready to plug-and-play with a well-selected set of  eight fine tubes, a steal at $1732.
    At 60 WPC, the ST-120 can power even moderately inefficient speakers to satisfyingly punishing levels in a reasonably modest listening space. I have a set of notoriously power-hungry B&W Matrix 803s which are perfectly served by the VTA. {N.B. Older B&Ws will be found to sound much more controlled and smooth driven by the 4 ohm taps!}
    The standard-issue triode/ultralinear switching capability allows one to effectively alter the size and shape of the stereo image in a way which must be experienced to grasp. Triode mode will sound more intimate and laid-back to most ears, like a small club environment, while ultralinear mode  might be likened to moving to arena-sized or concert hall ambience. Source and mood will dictate what sounds best at any given moment. It’s a great feature.
    But how does it sound? Well, the only way I can tell you is to state that the ST-120 is the closest thing to the ideal of “a wire with gain” that I’ve ever heard. Given good-quality sources, well-matched speakers, and a well-designed listening room, you can expect your gear to disappear, leaving nothing between you and your music. It doesn’t get any better than this, folks. Bass is naturally extended and as solid as your speakers can deliver, while highs are uncommonly detailed and smooth without any sense of harshness or fatigue.  In short, miraculous.
    Several other things to note: this unit runs cooler than any comparable amp I’ve ever used. Top temperatures at a “full gallop” will climb no higher than 200F at most (measured by laser therm on the output tube plates.)  Power transformer was measured at the same time at only 130F. This means that you are getting top-flight sound delivered efficiently by components which are being only conservatively driven. This amp is built to last, and further, it is designed to ensure that all tubes and components are going to remain well within proper tolerances for much longer than one might expect.
    It is worth noting that you can expect the sound of this unit to improve in subtle ways over the first hundred or so hours. I waited four days since I first powered it up to write this report. I’m not even close to getting the “full monty”!
    Add to this the incredibly responsive customer service that you can count on from both Bob L. and Bill G., who will patiently answer your questions – even dumb ones – and the fact that, should you have even a modicum of ability with a soldering iron, the amp is available in kit form for as little as $909, and the experience of buying a superb power amplifier which truly deserves rave ratings is yours.
    "A wire with gain." Being a flack myself, I like that.
    Bob L. is always ready to pick up the phone and answer dumb questions, and Bill G. walked me very patiently through installing Tidal on my Linux system (which by all means, do). Turns out those little Mac Airporters have a helluva DAC in them for streaming audio.
    I have M-125s, upgraded by MontanaWay, and an SP-13. Can't go wrong.
    Now, we must send you off to tube-rolling camp. Never mind the weather, the holiday's forever.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:03 pm

    To deepee, who quips-- "Now, we must send you off to tube-rolling camp. Never mind the weather, the holiday's forever.":

    I've already started my first stint at The Camp. I did NOT pack any SHORTS. Razz





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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by deepee99 on Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:08 pm

    OUCH!

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Dale Stevens on Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:22 pm

    Kently, excellent! Wish you would post this on www.diyaudio.com/forums !!

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:06 pm

    Dale Stevens wrote:Kently, excellent! Wish you would post this on  www.diyaudio.com/forums  !!

    I have just done so, Mr. Stevens. bounce

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by sKiZo on Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:17 pm




    Just the fact that mine didn't explode when first powered up was great. Bonus when it sounded as good as it does.

    Mine was something I'd always wanted to do, and I had the incentive of owning a McIntosh MC2205 solid state amp that needed work. Now that the Latino is in the rack, the Big Mac just sits there ... collecting dust.

    (It can continue to sit there too ... at around 90 pounds, I don't move it any more than I have to.)

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:31 pm

    sKiZo wrote:


    Just the fact that mine didn't explode when first powered up was great. Bonus when it sounded as good as it does.

    Mine was something I'd always wanted to do, and I had the incentive of owning a McIntosh MC2205 solid state amp that needed work. Now that the Latino is in the rack, the Big Mac just sits there ... collecting dust.

    (It can continue to sit there too ... at around 90 pounds, I don't move it any more than I have to.)

    All the weight of the Mac must be in the Big Blue Meters....the ST-120 weighs all of 40 lbs. {soaking wet}. lol!

    BUT WAIT.....THERE'S MORE!!!
    I bought the tube set with the kit. I was pleasantly shocked to find that Bob L. had graciously included three NOS RCA 5963s instead of some new-fangled 12AU7s. Now THAT'S service.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by deepee99 on Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:02 pm

    There's a rumour floating about that Mr. Latino, for a mere $2,000, will provide optional blue meters for the 120s and M-125s.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:18 pm

    deepee99 wrote:There's a rumour floating about that Mr. Latino, for a mere $2,000, will provide optional blue meters for the 120s and M-125s.


    I was mistaken about the weight of the Big Mac being in the meters. It's actually in the mandatory independent power supply FOR the meters. Sorry for the error.
    Seriously, I didn't mention another amenity whose potential might be important to anyone shipping a built VTA ST-120. The driver board caps can be mounted UNDERNEATH for protection. Bill G. will do that for you. Turns out there's just enough clearance, Clarence.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by sKiZo on Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:32 pm

    I went with industrial grade cap protection for the VTA board on my custom build ST120 ...



    Having the board set up with copper on both sides of the mounting holes to give that option is a real nice touch.

    +1 on the 5963's too. I found most 12AU7's to be a bit too bright for my liking, and the 12BH7 and 5814 families too dark. Currently running the Star 5963's out board with a tasty little DeVry 12BH7 in the center position. Nice blend ... tight at the bottom, but not fat, with great clarity up through the vocals and beyond.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:54 pm

    sKiZo wrote:I went with industrial grade cap protection for the VTA board on my custom build ST120 ...



    Having the board set up with copper on both sides of the mounting holes to give that option is a real nice touch.

    +1 on the 5963's too. I found most 12AU7's to be a bit too bright for my liking, and the 12BH7 and 5814 families too dark. Currently running the Star 5963's out board with a tasty little DeVry 12BH7 in the center position. Nice blend ... tight at the bottom, but not fat, with great clarity up through the vocals and beyond.

    Yours is the Lamborghini of the ST-120s, Sir. My capacitor goes off to you.
    I'm just at the beginning of my Tubular Journey. I've already ordered an SP14 kit which Mr. Bill {OH NO!} has kindly offered to build. Jim McShane is supplying tubes for same. It may never end, but , as the Buddhists say, the kicks is in the journey - as long as one stops regularly to smell the roses. Or listen to a string quartet or six.
    Oh, I plan to incorporate some nifty Mundorf Gold/Silver couplers. Ain't tubes THE BALLS?
    I'm just discovering the beauty of triode mode. I have a small space - only 13X10X7 - and a penchant for tweaking my room acoustics with odd materiel, like bags of cement and old facecloths graciously inherited from my OCD mom.....but enough about me. What do YOU think about me? affraid

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by sKiZo on Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:00 am

    Half the fun for me was the mental scratching that went into the beast before the metal scratching even began. As you say, it's the journey, and I took the road less traveled. More of a lines squiggled on the back of a bar napkin kinda thang ...

    I've got my system in an 8x8 cube ... Granted, I did blast out the back wall into an archway, which adjoins a 12x14 room for a bit more breathing space.

    Thanx for the reminder on triode mode. I forget sometimes I have that option. Just picked up on Toscanini's The RCA Years and going through that. I still prefer the pentode punch for the heavy instrumentals, but should be interesting to compare some of the more laid back stuff mode ala mode ...



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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:43 am

    Dale Stevens wrote:Kently, excellent! Wish you would post this on  www.diyaudio.com/forums  !!
     

    I got this rather off-putting response on diyaudio to my repost of this innocent little piece this A.M.:

    http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/272245-tube-newbies-review-vta-st-120-a-new-post.html

    It does not fill me with enthusiasm nor eagerness to enjoin that veddy British community. I sense a whiff of ozone tinged with sulphur, and I much prefer the clean fresh air wafting thru this much-more-open space. I'm too old to enjoy being hazed.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Bob Latino on Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:40 am

    Kentley,

    On that DIYtube forum ... Those guys are hard core DIY dudes that build their own gear out of an assortment of old parts thrown together with their own ideas about how to build tube gear. Each one of them also has that "proud poppa" syndrome in the sense that what they created (they feel) is better than anything else out there that you can purchase in a "pre-packaged kit form" ..

    The fact that we built the amp for you and you didn't build the amp yourself and therefore you are not a "DIYselfer" is why you get the response that you did ...

    Bob

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:48 am

    Bob Latino wrote:Kentley,

    On that DIYtube forum ... Those guys are hard core DIY dudes that build their own gear out of an assortment of old parts thrown together with their own ideas about how to build tube gear. Each one of them also has that "proud poppa" syndrome in the sense that what they created (they feel) is better than anything else out there that you can purchase in a "pre-packaged kit form" ..

    The fact that we built the amp for you and you didn't build the amp yourself and therefore you are not a "DIYselfer" is why you get the response that you did ...

    Bob

    Yeah, I kinda figured that out. But we are so wonderfully civil here...and tolerant...and helpful....and brave...and clean.......

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by deepee99 on Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:52 am

    Kentley wrote:
    Dale Stevens wrote:Kently, excellent! Wish you would post this on  www.diyaudio.com/forums  !!
     

    I got this rather off-putting response on diyaudio to my repost of this innocent little piece this A.M.:

    http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/272245-tube-newbies-review-vta-st-120-a-new-post.html

    It does not fill me with enthusiasm nor eagerness to enjoin that veddy British community. I sense a whiff of ozone tinged with sulphur, and I much prefer the clean fresh air wafting thru this much-more-open space. I'm too old to enjoy being hazed.

    Kentley,
    I read the flame. They're just jealous. We've got some fine Englishmen on this board who don't do that. sKiZo, show us again what happens to flamers on this board, please.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:56 am

    deepee99 wrote:
    Kentley wrote:
    Dale Stevens wrote:Kently, excellent! Wish you would post this on  www.diyaudio.com/forums  !!
     

    I got this rather off-putting response on diyaudio to my repost of this innocent little piece this A.M.:

    http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/272245-tube-newbies-review-vta-st-120-a-new-post.html

    It does not fill me with enthusiasm nor eagerness to enjoin that veddy British community. I sense a whiff of ozone tinged with sulphur, and I much prefer the clean fresh air wafting thru this much-more-open space. I'm too old to enjoy being hazed.

    Kentley,
    I read the flame. They're just jealous. We've got some fine Englishmen on this board who don't do that. sKiZo, show us again what happens to flamers on this board, please.

    If it involves charged capacitors and delicate body parts, I'd rather not know....

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:06 am

    sKiZo wrote:Half the fun for me was the mental scratching that went into the beast before the metal scratching even began. As you say, it's the journey, and I took the road less traveled. More of a lines squiggled on the back of a bar napkin kinda thang ...

    I've got my system in an 8x8 cube ... Granted, I did blast out the back wall into an archway, which adjoins a 12x14 room for a bit more breathing space.

    Thanx for the reminder on triode mode. I forget sometimes I have that option. Just picked up on Toscanini's The RCA Years and going through that. I still prefer the pentode punch for the heavy instrumentals, but should be interesting to compare some of the more laid back stuff mode ala mode ...



    One cannot stress enough the importance of room treatment and speaker placement when cosidering a set-up. I fall into the "deader is better" camp myself. I want to hear the music as closely to how it was recorded, for better or worse.
    Nice to find someone whose tastes run to the more "serious" side - I love the Toscanini legacy, particularly the '30s British stuff. Some of the later NBC records sound a bit strained, as if he were trying too hard. But I wouldn't kick them outta bed, fer sure.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by PeterCapo on Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:10 am

    Bob Latino wrote:Kentley,

    On that DIYtube forum ... Those guys are hard core DIY dudes that build their own gear out of an assortment of old parts thrown together with their own ideas about how to build tube gear. Each one of them also has that "proud poppa" syndrome in the sense that what they created (they feel) is better than anything else out there that you can purchase in a "pre-packaged kit form" ..

    The fact that we built the amp for you and you didn't build the amp yourself and therefore you are not a "DIYselfer" is why you get the response that you did ...

    Bob


    +1

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by MontanaWay on Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:52 am

    Kentley wrote:
    Bob Latino wrote:Kentley,

    On that DIYtube forum ... Those guys are hard core DIY dudes that build their own gear out of an assortment of old parts thrown together with their own ideas about how to build tube gear. Each one of them also has that "proud poppa" syndrome in the sense that what they created (they feel) is better than anything else out there that you can purchase in a "pre-packaged kit form" ..

    The fact that we built the amp for you and you didn't build the amp yourself and therefore you are not a "DIYselfer" is why you get the response that you did ...

    Bob

    Yeah, I kinda figured that out. But we are so wonderfully civil here...and tolerant...and helpful....and brave...and clean.......

    well that reply figures.......those red coats are still pissed at us for showing them the way home across the Atlantic......... What a Face

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by corndog71 on Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:52 am

    Some kids these days I think are turned off by superfluous marketing. Anything longer than 3 sentences is "too long" and potentially insincere.

    Take it with a grain of salt. The internet as I'm sure you know can often require a thick coat of armor.

    Thankfully, this place is a a nice refuge from the mass of ignorance and mean-spirits.

    Still loving my ST120 and hope to roll some different tubes in the near future.


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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:59 am

    corndog71 wrote:Some kids these days I think are turned off by superfluous marketing.  Anything longer than 3 sentences is "too long" and potentially insincere.

    Take it with a grain of salt.  The internet as I'm sure you know can often require a thick coat of armor.

    Thankfully, this place is a a nice refuge from the mass of ignorance and mean-spirits.

    Still loving my ST120 and hope to roll some different tubes in the near future.

    That thar's a beaut. How heavy does the extra steel make the amp?
    Thanks for the sympathy. The snootyness bothered me for all of two minuets {sic}.

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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by sKiZo on Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:40 pm

    Kentley wrote:

    One cannot stress enough the importance of room treatment and speaker placement when cosidering a set-up. I fall into the "deader is better" camp myself. I want to hear the music as closely to how it was recorded, for better or worse.

    Room treatments are the very first step required to integrate even the best equipment with the environment ... Ohhhhhhmmmmmm ....

    It can get addictive though. If you find yourself tacking carpets to the ceiling to kill a shrill spot ...



    Or setting up something like this to voice a room with DSP software ...



    ... may I suggest you consider seeking professional psychiatric help ...  rabbit

    Nice to find someone whose tastes run to the more "serious" side - I love the Toscanini legacy, particularly the '30s British stuff. Some of the later NBC records sound a bit strained, as if he were trying too hard. But I wouldn't kick them outta bed, fer sure.

    More a prog rock kinda guy, but started listening to the classics as a change of pace just a couple years back ... apparently, they grow on you, which might explain why they're classics. We're in the sweet spot right now, where a lot of the good stuff is being remastered and boxed to make it easy to build a good collection. I've taken full advantage of that. The classical section of my HTPC doesn't feel quite as isolated as it once was.



    Ah, the classics. Back in those days, rich men would ride around in Zeppelins, dropping coins on people, and one day I seen J.D. Rockefeller flying by. So I run to the house for a big washtub and... hey! Where are you going? Anyway, about my washtub. I'd just used it that morning to wash my turkey, which in those days was known as a walking-bird. We'd always have walking-bird on Thanksgiving, with all the trimmings: cranberries, injun eyes, yams stuffed with gunpowder. Then we'd all watch football, which in those days was called baseball...

    But I digress ... I do that a lot.

    PS ... I got the Toscanini box set (AKA: The Strained NBC Years) from Arkiv for $59 a couple weeks ago, which is amazing considering the original vinyl remasters went for around $1200. Lot of mastering (what's the technical term ...) boo boos fixed as well, with a very light touch that cleans the recordings significantly without any major impact on the timbre and quality. You'll notice the production years bouncing about in a work as they ferreted out the very best tracks from the archives, sometimes spanning decades, which may explain a bit of the discontinuity that some might find off putting. Even so, I imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a better compilation ... or a better deal.

    Just checked, and it's still in stock with a price bump to $69. Still an outstanding deal.

    http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=713240


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    Re: A tube newbie's review of the VTA ST-120

    Post by Kentley on Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:52 pm

    I wholeheartedly approve of carpet on the ceiling. But when it comes to electronic and digital manipulation, I draw the line, personally.
    I didn't realize the Toscanini set was available from Arkiv. I'm wary of them because a great deal of their offerings have been CD-R copies, which can be problematical in my fussy Rega Apollo. And the shelf life tends to be short. But I suppose if you load them properly in digital storage, you could make out well.
    Perhaps Tidal will fulfill the promise of a huge and comprehensive library of classiics. Sooner or later, it's inevitable. Then my collection of 3000+ CDs can R.I.P.


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