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    More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

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    GP49

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    More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by GP49 on Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:59 am

    The hype:

    http://www.improveaudio.com/disc-energizer.htm

    But at least one audio magazine/website has called them on it:

    http://www.tnt-audio.com/accessories/aer_cd_energizer_e.html

    They also do an LP record "Energizer" at $1950.


    While we're at it, check this out.  The "Holy" Pyramid.  Note the imagery of Christ on the company's website.

    http://www.coconut-audio.com/holypyramid.html

    Only $2000.  If you are poverty-stricken, an earlier tweak, The Ball, is only $1000.  If moderately poor, The Cylinder is $1500.

    PeterCapo

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by PeterCapo on Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:08 pm

    Here's another steal

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/3x-Western-Electric-300A-Engraved-Tube-Disc-Getter-9-/301390556172?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

    Maintarget

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by Maintarget on Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:04 pm

    Hey Peter at least it includes free shipping LOL!

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by Bob Latino on Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:49 pm

    I agree with GP49 ... I hate seeing this audio voodoo crap show up on the internet ... One of the worst offenders in audio industry is Geoff Kait who runs a web site called "Machina Dynamica". Read the weird claims he makes about a wide variety of (IMHO) worthless junk he sells ..

    Machina Dynamica

    Bob

    sKiZo

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by sKiZo on Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:41 am

    I figured this was about those little magnetic hockey pucks that were making the rounds of the audio boards a while back. Put a couple on your system and you'd hear tighter bass and better definition, and your farts would smell better. Didn't say exactly where you were supposed to put them, but I had a few ideas on where THEY could stick them ...

    Bob Latino wrote:One of the worst offenders in audio industry is Geoff Kait who runs a web site called "Machina Dynamica".

    Didn't he design the audio system for Nemo's man cave on the Nautilus?

    arledgsc

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    Post by arledgsc on Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:46 am

    Also "WA Quantum Chips"  that you attach to fuses, speaker cables, interconnects, ICs, transformers, etc.   These are making the rounds and cost a fortune.  Miraculous sound improvements are claimed of course.

    You never hear that any of these tweaks having detrimental effects.  (Because they don't actually do anything but make you feel better justifying the purchase).

    The Machina Dynamica pebbles take the cake though.  Boy, are people gullible.

    McGar

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    Post by McGar on Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:42 pm

    Can anyone say "Magic Beans"?  Laughing Laughing Razz Razz

    PeterCapo

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    Post by PeterCapo on Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:48 pm

    Maintarget wrote:Hey Peter at least it includes free shipping LOL!

    Yeah! What a bargain!

    vtshopdog

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by vtshopdog on Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:57 pm

    OK - in another life decades ago I did get a chemistry degree -
    I think all you need to do to sell snake oil is invoke quantum mechanics or another rarely understood but recognized tenet of science:
    "picotechnology is much more advanced than traditional nanotechnology . . ."
    (I suspect Mr Heisenberg would have no uncertainty as to validity of both these products)


    That Schlop is FUNN-EEE - thanks for the laugh!!

    Tube Nube

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by Tube Nube on Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:13 pm

    I was reading the other day about speaker placement--yet another area subject to vastly discrepant opinions about what should be done and what is required in order to do it.

    when I became a bit suspicious of what I was reading, I looked ahead a bit to find the author was hawking his own brand of acoustic treatment panel. Not necessarily suspicious. Then I looked a bit further to find comments about some interconmect. Apparently it is the most effective brand for curing skin effects, and in so doing, delivering stunning audible improvements . . . . And I left the website.

    sKiZo

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    Post by sKiZo on Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:39 am

    At least Drew Alan Kaplan was nice enough to be an entertaining flim flam artist while doing a reach around going for your wallet ...



    I've still got a few of the old DAK catalogs laying around ...

    tfm55x

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by tfm55x on Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:05 pm

    Remember the "run a green marks-a-lot around the edge of your CDs for better sound" craze? Pretty soon, someone came up with the " you need to use a Sanfords No. xxxx green marker for the best result." At least you were only out the $0.99 for a marker, and you could use the marker for other purposes. The rate of inflation on Snake Oil(TM) is reallly high these days!

    pmarcin

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by pmarcin on Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:16 pm

    Jack Bybee , developer of Bybee Quantum Filter, highly recommends the treatment. Need I say more? Maybe John Curl will lose more credibility.

    GP49

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    Post by GP49 on Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:46 am

    I really need my quantum filtered.  That should improve the performance of my elegristic frammus especially in the abyss of space so imagine what it would do for audio perfectionists in a standard atmosphere.

    But wait a minute. Wasn't Bybee's product once called the Quantum Purifier...and then he denied that it was a filter?  That was probably the only true thing he said about it.  

    "It's not a filter."

    But is it, now?

    Kentley

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by Kentley on Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:43 am

    Here's a nice panel discussion on "Audio Myths" which explains some of the psychology of the Placebo Effect, as well as other pertinent perceptual anomalies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ

    Summary: WE'RE ALL SUCKERS FROM BIRTH.

    Mr. Zenith

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by Mr. Zenith on Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:33 pm

    Interesting Craigslist ad here in the KC metro area. I particularly like the 'elastic bass drivers"... Very Happy

    deepee99

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by deepee99 on Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:30 pm

    Mr. Zenith wrote:Interesting Craigslist ad here in the KC metro area. I particularly like the 'elastic bass drivers"... Very Happy
    Maybe he meant rubbers. They have always enhanced the sound -- given the right company.

    tfm55x

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by tfm55x on Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:18 pm

    Sounds like the classic "White Van Speaker Scam"

    Kentley

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by Kentley on Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:07 pm

    Colour: Wood
    Height: 16 inches
    Ad origin: Kansas

    Built by Munchkins. Tornado not supplied. Bass extension down to 50 kHz by The Wizard of Odds.

    Pay no attention to that ____ behind the curtain.
    Returns only by Authorized Agent of the unspecified Middle Eastern Principality of your "choice". Bon appetit!

    { earbuds not available - sorry }

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by Mr. Zenith on Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:24 pm

    Heh heh... BMFM (By Munchkins, For Munchkins - and emphasis on the "BM")...  This tread is most entertaining! Smile

    Interesting that 70% of Amazon buyers rated it a "1".

    BTW, do the "WA Quantum Chips" mentioned in Post 6 taste as good as Tostitos? I'm getting hungry.

    Sigue el camino de ladrillos amarillos... Sigue el camino de ladrillos amarillos... (hablamos Espaniol)

    Kentley

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    Re: More audio voodoo...or, there's yet another sucker born every minute

    Post by Kentley on Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:32 pm

    Those Amazon buyers bought. This troubles me more than the product. Look at the pix. Stunning tower speakers, eh? Think no further, and $$$$.
    Then thou complainest. Who art foolish?

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