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    VAC Dynaco PAS

    Pillo69
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    Post by Pillo69 Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:34 am

    Available in the RCA output PAS 0.3 VAC, brings Hum and electric differential jumping house.

    The voltage scheme below.

    Anyone know the problem?.

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    Post by peterh Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:21 pm

    Voltages seems ok.
    But i do not understand your question. What is the problem ?
    And is this an unmodified PAS-3 ?
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    Post by Pillo69 Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:42 pm

    Yes, it is an original PAS. 240v transformer rewind.

    There is a leak that generates VAC HUM me, and when I connect to a device with RCA grounding differential rises from the house.

    sorry for my english.
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    Post by Roy Mottram Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:59 pm

    pin 7 is a grid, you can't expect to be able to measure grid voltages with most meters, as they will load the circuit down
    that's the huge advantage of an old fashioned vacuum tube voltmeter, which has 11 megohm impedance or great.
    Most modern DVMs only have around 1Mohm impedance.

    If you are getting hum, most likely your source isn't grounded the same as the PAS preamp, or there is a poor ground connection somewhere, or more likely a ground loop.
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    Post by Pillo69 Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:18 pm

    tubes4hifi wrote:pin 7 is a grid, you can't expect to be able to measure grid voltages with most meters, as they will load the circuit down
    that's the huge advantage of an old fashioned vacuum tube voltmeter, which has 11 megohm impedance or great.
    Most modern DVMs only have around 1Mohm impedance.  

    If you are getting hum, most likely your source isn't grounded the same as the PAS preamp, or there is a poor ground connection somewhere, or more likely a ground loop.


    The 0.3 VAC in the line-out are also due to that ground loop?.
    Thank you.
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    Post by Roy Mottram Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:57 pm

    that's probably the hum you are hearing!
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    Post by Pillo69 Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:07 pm

    I have replaced three Phono inputs wiring, I put OFC screened cable, the HUM is gone, but current over the mass still exists.

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    Post by Pillo69 Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:27 am

    I have replaced the PAS volume potentiometer with an ALPS (100 k) without loudness.

    I have read in several places that the resistance of 4 k 7 is due to start. Where I put it?.
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    Post by Pillo69 Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:10 pm

    Update the thread to show the solution shunt to ground voltage.

    The problem was .02 capacitor next to the power switch. I used the tester and showed me the correct value, however as a last resort I've replaced and the problem is resolved.

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