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    Dynaco St-150 (35kOHM input impedance) ok match for PAS 3Z?

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    Post by oldsmobuick Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:09 pm

    I'll be building the Z-mod with regulated PS this week and wonder if I can use the ST-150 with its 35k input impedance. I know it was not a good match with the stock PAS 3, even with the 62k and 510k resistors removed.

    In general, is there a guideline (50k, 100k) for what might be a good match for the 3Z loading/capacitance wise? Also, I know the Z is based on the SP6 VTA unit, are the specs for the SP6 still available and will they be the same with the Z-mod?
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    Post by peterh Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:24 am

    No.
    You need a buffer between them for high-quality sound.
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    Post by oldsmobuick Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:20 am

    Thanks, is there a documented modification to raise the 35k up to something more universally friendly? I like the amp and would be up for tinkering if it meant I could use it natively with the 3Z.
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    Post by peterh Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:56 am

    oldsmobuick wrote:Thanks, is there a documented modification to raise the 35k up to something more universally friendly? I like the amp and would be up for tinkering if it meant I could use it natively with the 3Z.

    One example is this :
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MK4-Indeed-Class-A-Valve-Buffer-Amp-Amplifier-electro-harmonix-6922EH-tube-/290827123772?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b6a5bc3c


    This will make your PAS3 able to drive any amp without loss of fidelity
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    Post by oldsmobuick Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:00 am

    Interesting, thanks for that link! Specifically, I'm wondering if the Z-Modded PAS will also need such buffering?
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    Post by peterh Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:09 am

    oldsmobuick wrote:Interesting, thanks for that link! Specifically, I'm wondering if the Z-Modded PAS will also need such buffering?
    That you will have to ask your vendor ( or examine the schematics which i do not have)

    Myself found no suitable buffer, instead i built one : http://n.manet.nu/fm1/fm1.html
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    Post by aguaazul Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:04 pm

    I have a PAS3. I connect it to a Bozak N-106 electronic crossover between the PAS & ST-70. As I live in the bay area, I asked Joe Curcio his thoughts on a CF. He had built a few and had great success with them. His CF board adds a 2nd transformer for an all new beefier power supply. The tube is a 12AT7 (6201). Since then I've added VTA boards (with a bit of Roy's expert help). I have pretty good pictures if you would be interested in looking at them.
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    Post by Roy Mottram Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:40 pm

    if you have or obtain a Zmod line stage for your PAS preamp you can easily drive the Dynaco ST150 amp.
    The Zmod has an output impedance of around 1K and can drive any amp with an input impedance above 10K.
    www.tubes4hifi.com/PAS3-CAT.htm
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    Post by oldsmobuick Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:46 pm

    Thanks Roy! Good news! And thanks for the other replies also, this is the info I need as I'm builing the Z-mod.

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