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    VTA-ST120 Bias resistor settings,

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    edman44


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    Post by edman44 Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:32 am

    Hello,
              Well After many hours of building my VTA-ST120 kit. I can say that it is complete. Sounds wonderful and has no hum. I just have one question about biasing the VR's? Believe it or not all four are set dead on 0.50 Ma. The one in question is the right rear Bias resistor. The other three Bias resistors are set in the same position right around 11 o'clock. When I first power the amp up after a few minutes of warm-up I check the Bias setting. And I find every time the left rear Bias is higher than the rest? After I adjust it the vr is at 8 o'clock. Does it matter that it does not line up with the other three Bias settings? I am using a headphone tube preamp until I can afford a real preamp/Thanks, Rolling Eyes
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    Post by mijohn Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:20 am

    It doesn't matter at all. Usually I find that that each tube requires a different setting and it's just a coincidence that three of yours are closely matched. Congratulations on a successful build.
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    Post by Bob Latino Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:58 am

    mijohn wrote:It doesn't matter at all. Usually I find that that each tube requires a different setting and it's just a coincidence that three of yours are closely matched. Congratulations on a successful build.

    Yes ... Even in a matched set of new output tubes one output tube may show some bias abnormality. Note also that NEW output tubes will also wear in slightly differently over the first few months. Check the bias once a month and make your adjustments after the amp has warmed up a half hour or so. If you set the bias when the amp is "cold", as the amp warms up the bias will rise slightly.

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    Post by DavidR Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:24 am

    I find I have the same issue. My right rear output tube bias always rises with use. The other 3 are always somewhat close to each other and to 0.5v set point but the RR is higher - .510 to .512v. Drives me crazy.
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    Post by edman44 Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:22 pm

    Thanks, guys for your thoughts, David my RR tube like yours is always on the high side also. And a big thanks to Bob for sending me the extra parts and his help with the amp. I have found the Dyanco customer support to be the finest you will ever find anywhere thanks to Bob. Other companies should treat their customers, as well as Bob, does. Now all I need to do is save money to buy a tube preamp instead of using an aiyima tube-b3 headphone preamp. I will be asking if there are any online preamps available in another post.

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    Post by Roy Mottram Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:23 pm

    is it always the RR socket, or does the problem follow the tube?
    If the problem follows the tube, replace the tube.
    If the problem is the RR socket, resolder all the connections on that socket.
    Also check the solder connections on the driver board that lead out from that bias adjustment.

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