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Dogstar wrote:How about photos that show bad wiring and then good wiring?
My wiring is nowhere near as bad as what Bob shows above, but I am not happy with how it turned out from an aesthetic perspective (I have everything running per the manual and I TRIED to make it neat but I feel like I can do better) My wires are no longer then they need to be and I ran wires along the same paths as shown in the picture that came with the amp. ) When i do I will try to pay major attention to Looks as well as ensuring it's correct...
j beede wrote:The nylon tie anchors I use are from Fry's. They are ~1" square nylon with peel-and-stick adhesive backs. Make you position them carefully--the adhesive is strong and thay are hard to remove once set!
Dogstar wrote:Some time ago I was admiring the wiring of some audio components (I do not remember if it was a VTA kit) and I could have sworn there were wire management pieces that looked like posts that were perhaps 1.00 or 1.50 inches high that had a base that was attached to the enclosure surface with adhesive on one end and then a zip tie slot on the other end that would help keep wiring organized and away from the other wires and electronics components. It seemed like it would be something a company like Panduit would produce. I've looked all over the place for these and can't seem to find them and it seems to me that was the only time I saw them. Maybe it was a dream or maybe I saw too many Gwar videos before I looked.
If anyone knows of anything like that and has used them please let me know where I could find them.
MarcVBelgium wrote:Dogstar wrote:Some time ago I was admiring the wiring of some audio components (I do not remember if it was a VTA kit) and I could have sworn there were wire management pieces that looked like posts that were perhaps 1.00 or 1.50 inches high that had a base that was attached to the enclosure surface with adhesive on one end and then a zip tie slot on the other end that would help keep wiring organized and away from the other wires and electronics components. It seemed like it would be something a company like Panduit would produce. I've looked all over the place for these and can't seem to find them and it seems to me that was the only time I saw them. Maybe it was a dream or maybe I saw too many Gwar videos before I looked.
If anyone knows of anything like that and has used them please let me know where I could find them.
Here's how it looks (they also exist in white...). The website is Dutch....... We find them overhere (Belgium) in any tools store.
I use them all the time. You put a cable tie through them. They are also self-adhesive.
https://www.kortpack.nl/nl/kabelbinders-drilbinders/plakzadels/zelfklevende-plakzadels
PeterW, good analogy. A fine naval architect and friend, Bob Perry, used to say, a good looking sailboat is good sailing boat. Details are in the minutiae. .Peter W. wrote:StevieRay wrote:Back in my previous life -- in an industrial manufacturing facility -- we had these 25-conductor cables, some 50 ft. long, that were at each end soldered to Amphenol MS (military style) connectors.
I would tell my technicians to take their time building and soldering these, as cable making (and other electronic endeavors) is 1/2 art and 1/2 science -- "the better it looks, the longer it will last." Needless to say, I would get some chuckles out of that statement.
When we had a rash of failures -- nicked wires that broke, cold solder joints, shorted wires (easy when those pins are so close together) -- I would sit them down and show them why it took 4 or more hours to build these things correctly.
Back when I was a machinist, the foreman came into the shop every morning and would yell out: REMEMBER!! you area paid by the hour. NOT by the piece!
He meant it.
We were well paid not to make mistakes and to take our time. Then, I went to work in an architectural office, at 1/3 my salary as a machinist. But, that was my degree, after all.
Neatness counts, ask your surgeon!
arledgsc wrote:For serviceability sake YES neatness counts. When the memory of the build fades and you are forced to reopen the chassis to find a fault you will wish you spent more time on the assembly.
I spent twice as much time planning my VTA ST-120 build than it took to actually put it together. Went over the build instructions at least three times planning wire routing and component placements before taking a soldering iron or screw driver to the kit. "Measure twice, cut once" is a good habit.
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