Want to get some decent earbuds. Something better than they hand out on airplanes. Dont need to be $200 but need an upgrade. Any recommendations? Thanks. IA.
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Ear bud recommendation
wildiowa- Posts : 237
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Peter W.- Posts : 1351
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wildiowa wrote:Want to get some decent earbuds. Something better than they hand out on airplanes. Dont need to be $200 but need an upgrade. Any recommendations? Thanks. IA.
Like tattoos, there is no such thing as a "good" earbud. They are an engraved, gilt-edged invitation to permanent hearing damage. For your own sake, reconsider!
ImFritz- Posts : 49
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Peter W. wrote:wildiowa wrote:Want to get some decent earbuds. Something better than they hand out on airplanes. Dont need to be $200 but need an upgrade. Any recommendations? Thanks. IA.
Like tattoos, there is no such thing as a "good" earbud. They are an engraved, gilt-edged invitation to permanent hearing damage. For your own sake, reconsider!
I can't resist. Why would you come to a Tube Audio forum and ask about earbuds?
wildiowa- Posts : 237
Join date : 2012-03-19
I have been a member of this board for seven years...I see you have been here for two. I find these people super knowledgable and fair about all matters electronic and when a good, honest opinion or view of a problem is needed these are not paid reviewers or hacks...you get real information. Why would anyone write to post a tune-of-the day on a Dyna board? In a community there are many things of interest or knowledge needed and people discuss many things. You would have been mightily offended a few years ago when I asked for opinions on which weed whacker to buy. Bob was miffed but he allowed it to stay up a couple days as others chipped in on a totally unrelated matter and we had some fun with it. That was pushing it. But ear buds? Sorry if that was too far out of bounds for your tastes. I needed a quick opinion from people i trust and who know their stuff. Perhaps i should have specified I would listen through my Dynas, satisfying your criteria.
Over the years, I have found this board to be trending more towards the fate of other internet communties. They start as a close-knit small group of enthusiasts but gradually as others join it becomes more snarky, condescending and off-putting. I dont contribute often, and I dont know a lot about B+ voltages and technology, but i read it every day and enjoy posts by the regulars. But not so much anymore. Perhaps you could become moderator and protect the sanctity and purity of the forum if you have that much spare time or if it bothers you that much. Sorry to whomever might be offended!
Over the years, I have found this board to be trending more towards the fate of other internet communties. They start as a close-knit small group of enthusiasts but gradually as others join it becomes more snarky, condescending and off-putting. I dont contribute often, and I dont know a lot about B+ voltages and technology, but i read it every day and enjoy posts by the regulars. But not so much anymore. Perhaps you could become moderator and protect the sanctity and purity of the forum if you have that much spare time or if it bothers you that much. Sorry to whomever might be offended!
Zimmer64- Posts : 123
Join date : 2013-01-29
Age : 60
Location : Switzerland
I like the Etymotic earbuds for travelling on the plane. Excellent sound and super noise insulation. I have the ER4PT model (new model is ER4XR). At home I use a Sennheiser HD600 with either a Bottlehead SEX amp or with an Apogee One, or a Pono player.
Hope this helps
Michael
Hope this helps
Michael
wildiowa- Posts : 237
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Zimmer64...thank you for your polite, concise reply...thats really all I wanted to know.
ImFritz- Posts : 49
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Age : 65
Location : Redford, Michigan
wildiowa wrote:I have been a member of this board for seven years...I see you have been here for two. I find these people super knowledgable and fair about all matters electronic and when a good, honest opinion or view of a problem is needed these are not paid reviewers or hacks...you get real information. Why would anyone write to post a tune-of-the day on a Dyna board? In a community there are many things of interest or knowledge needed and people discuss many things. You would have been mightily offended a few years ago when I asked for opinions on which weed whacker to buy. Bob was miffed but he allowed it to stay up a couple days as others chipped in on a totally unrelated matter and we had some fun with it. That was pushing it. But ear buds? Sorry if that was too far out of bounds for your tastes. I needed a quick opinion from people i trust and who know their stuff. Perhaps i should have specified I would listen through my Dynas, satisfying your criteria.
Over the years, I have found this board to be trending more towards the fate of other internet communties. They start as a close-knit small group of enthusiasts but gradually as others join it becomes more snarky, condescending and off-putting. I dont contribute often, and I dont know a lot about B+ voltages and technology, but i read it every day and enjoy posts by the regulars. But not so much anymore. Perhaps you could become moderator and protect the sanctity and purity of the forum if you have that much spare time or if it bothers you that much. Sorry to whomever might be offended!
Settle down tiger!
I was just confused as to ear buds and quality tube equipment. Wasn't trying to be snarky! LoL Guess I just think of earbuds and an ipod or a cell phone.
Bob Latino- Admin
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ImFritz wrote:
I can't resist. Why would you come to a Tube Audio forum and ask about earbuds?
On this forum we do allow any "audio related" questions so - an earbud question is OK. What we don't allow are questions about weed whackers or anything else NON-audio related.
Bob
Roy Mottram- Admin
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I'm an Amazon junkie, so here's the page you get when searching for "earbuds"
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=earbuds&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
I looked at their pick for "best under $25" but it didn't compare at all to these Symphonized NRG 3.0 for $20 with much better ratings
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=earbuds&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
I looked at their pick for "best under $25" but it didn't compare at all to these Symphonized NRG 3.0 for $20 with much better ratings
Peter W.- Posts : 1351
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Location : Melrose Park, PA
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/generation-deaf-doctors-warn-dangers-ear-buds-n360041
https://www.allamericanhearing.com/doctors-warn-dangers-earbuds/
And this is just a start.
Guys and gals: Earbuds in any form, at any price, from any source are wretched devices that _will_ damage your hearing.
https://www.allamericanhearing.com/doctors-warn-dangers-earbuds/
And this is just a start.
Guys and gals: Earbuds in any form, at any price, from any source are wretched devices that _will_ damage your hearing.
Blitzen- Posts : 63
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Peter W. wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/generation-deaf-doctors-warn-dangers-ear-buds-n360041
https://www.allamericanhearing.com/doctors-warn-dangers-earbuds/
And this is just a start.
Guys and gals: Earbuds in any form, at any price, from any source are wretched devices that _will_ damage your hearing.
Sorry, this is BS. There's nothing inherently evil about earbuds. If you actually read the article, it even gives suggestions for safe listening. Yes, if you listen to *anything* at high volume you are risking damage, but the fact of the matter is that noise-isolating earbuds could be *protecting* you from the external high volume noise.
Bob Latino- Admin
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Peter W. wrote:
Guys and gals: Earbuds in any form, at any price, from any source are wretched devices that _will_ damage your hearing.
Peter,
You have made some good contributions to this forum but what you suggest above (that all earbuds will damage your hearing) is just not true. What is true is that some users mistakenly try to recreate concert level volume with a pair of earbuds. Doing this CAN damage your hearing ! There is nothing wrong with using earbuds at low to moderate volume levels.
Bob
scrotuss- Posts : 21
Join date : 2012-12-16
It may very well be that the hearing damage problem (which seems to be documented) stems from the fact that many use them in high background noise situations where they crank up the volume to drown out the noise. Now if someone could make a noise cancelling earbud (with all of the hearing aid technology out there, it has to be possible), that may truly help the problem.
Peter W.- Posts : 1351
Join date : 2016-08-07
Location : Melrose Park, PA
This will be my last 'contribution' to this thread - so hear goes:
Earbuds are in the same class of "things" as Opioids. I have had two hip replacements, and I used Opioids for about 72 hours after the surgery. Then, not. Meaning that Opioids may and can be used safely, and they may and can be effective.
But they should not be a first choice.
Earbuds are in the same class of "things" as Opioids. I have had two hip replacements, and I used Opioids for about 72 hours after the surgery. Then, not. Meaning that Opioids may and can be used safely, and they may and can be effective.
But they should not be a first choice.
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I think you mean here goes, not hear goes; or maybe it’s a play on words since we’re talking about the act of hearing something.
corndog71- Posts : 840
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wildiowa wrote:Want to get some decent earbuds. Something better than they hand out on airplanes. Dont need to be $200 but need an upgrade. Any recommendations? Thanks. IA.
I usually go with $30-40 Sony earbuds but I don't use the stock tips. I use the larger size Comply memory foam tips.
I've also liked the $40-50 wired RHA earbuds also with Comply tips.
Both are surprisingly good for the money.
deepee99- Posts : 2244
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Location : Wallace, Idaho
In Peter's defense, earbuds are not ipso facto bad for you, but I've a question to pose:
When is the last time you were anywhere close to someone using earbuds that you did not hear some "music" leaking from their head.
I venture a guess that if you can hear someone else's earbuds, that person is at serious risk of permanent damage.
When I quit my gig being the rock critic for the Seattle P-I, my ears rang for two years afterwards. Proof is that 4k hearing test Bob L. passes around from time to time. I have no idea what 4kHz sounds like.
(It didn't help that I flew piston aircraft "back in the days." Unlike these days, hearing protection was something only wimps considered -- this, when you've got a 450-hp engine three feet away running full-tilt into one ear and a check pilot screaming at you in the other, is not conducive to good long-term hearing prospects either.
When is the last time you were anywhere close to someone using earbuds that you did not hear some "music" leaking from their head.
I venture a guess that if you can hear someone else's earbuds, that person is at serious risk of permanent damage.
When I quit my gig being the rock critic for the Seattle P-I, my ears rang for two years afterwards. Proof is that 4k hearing test Bob L. passes around from time to time. I have no idea what 4kHz sounds like.
(It didn't help that I flew piston aircraft "back in the days." Unlike these days, hearing protection was something only wimps considered -- this, when you've got a 450-hp engine three feet away running full-tilt into one ear and a check pilot screaming at you in the other, is not conducive to good long-term hearing prospects either.
Kray- Posts : 36
Join date : 2019-05-06
Age : 50
Location : Denver
Zimmer64 wrote:I like the Etymotic earbuds for travelling on the plane. Excellent sound and super noise insulation. I have the ER4PT model (new model is ER4XR). At home I use a Sennheiser HD600 with either a Bottlehead SEX amp or with an Apogee One, or a Pono player.
Hope this helps
Michael
+1 - I love Etymotic earbuds.
deepee99- Posts : 2244
Join date : 2012-05-23
Location : Wallace, Idaho
When Dick Vandersteen, who's a leading light in the cause of hearing damage by hi-fi (he's against it) comes out with an earbud, I'll buy a pair.
Here, from our friends at Beltone, the leading fixer of broken ears:
https://www.beltone.com/en-us/hearing-loss/types-and-causes-of-hearing-loss/earbuds-and-hearing-loss
Here, in relevant part:
"Exposure to loud sounds—at or above 85 decibels—is a leading cause of hearing loss, because it damages the cells of your inner ear. When it comes to noise-induced hearing loss, it all depends on how loud and how long.
"Earbuds and headphones sit in or close to the ear canal, which places sound very close to the inner ear. This proximity has the effect of boosting sound by an equivalent of nine decibels. That's like going from a tinkling bell to the drone of a lawn mower. Also, many people boost the volume to block out background noise.
"These days, many people wear earbuds for hours on end. Even moderately loud sound can cause hearing damage if you listen for too long. For example, listening to a 90-decibel sound for three hours can be as damaging as hearing a 155 decibel-sound (like a jet taking off) for just thirty seconds.
(my emphasis)
"Remember the 60/60 rule; listen at 60% of the volume just 60 minutes a day."
Here, from our friends at Beltone, the leading fixer of broken ears:
https://www.beltone.com/en-us/hearing-loss/types-and-causes-of-hearing-loss/earbuds-and-hearing-loss
Here, in relevant part:
"Exposure to loud sounds—at or above 85 decibels—is a leading cause of hearing loss, because it damages the cells of your inner ear. When it comes to noise-induced hearing loss, it all depends on how loud and how long.
"Earbuds and headphones sit in or close to the ear canal, which places sound very close to the inner ear. This proximity has the effect of boosting sound by an equivalent of nine decibels. That's like going from a tinkling bell to the drone of a lawn mower. Also, many people boost the volume to block out background noise.
"These days, many people wear earbuds for hours on end. Even moderately loud sound can cause hearing damage if you listen for too long. For example, listening to a 90-decibel sound for three hours can be as damaging as hearing a 155 decibel-sound (like a jet taking off) for just thirty seconds.
(my emphasis)
"Remember the 60/60 rule; listen at 60% of the volume just 60 minutes a day."