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    High Bias on one socket - fixed !

    Mr C
    Mr C


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    Post by Mr C Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:42 pm

    The right rear socket is reading a very high bias.  It had been fine and I was checking bias every day.  This morning it read 8.something.  I shut it off and turned the bias pots all the way down.  Swapped the front and rear tubes.  Veriac is reading 117v.  With all the pots turned all the way down the rear is still reading 8.something.  Where should I start looking?
    Mr C
    Mr C


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    Post by Mr C Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:49 pm

    Okay.. Heres what I have. Unplugged of course, tubes removed. I get 174K across the 10k bias resistor on the right rear socket. The other 3 measure at..... 10k...
    peterh
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    Post by peterh Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:04 pm

    Mr C wrote:Okay..  Heres what I have.  Unplugged of course, tubes removed.  I get 174K across the 10k bias resistor on the right rear socket.  The other 3 measure at.....  10k...
    I hope that the "other 3" measures 10ohm !

    You have a blown 10ohm resistor, probably caused by a flash-over in the tube .
    Change resistor and junk the tube.
    Mr C
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    Post by Mr C Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:10 pm

    Oops.. I typed the values in wrong. Yes, the other 3 measure 10 ohms. The right rear measures 174K ohms. I talked to Bob and I have a replacement on the way. I have maybe 60 hours on the unit. I had just put a set of KT120s in about 10 hours ago.
    peterh
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    Post by peterh Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:14 pm

    Mr C wrote:Oops..  I typed the values in wrong.  Yes, the other 3 measure 10 ohms.  The right rear measures 174K ohms.  I talked to Bob and I have a replacement on the way.  I have maybe 60 hours on the unit.  I had just put a set of KT120s in about 10 hours ago.
    Thats good, you should be able to find a matching tube from the dealer.
    A tube that has flashed has a large probability to flash again, that's why it should be
    replaced with a fresh one.
    HarryY
    HarryY


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    Location : NY

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    Post by HarryY Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:18 pm

    When you install the resistor make sure the leads can flex a little for thermal expansion and contraction


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    Steve G


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    Location : Carson City, NV

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    Post by Steve G Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:50 pm

    I would quit checking bias everyday. I check mine occasionally and it stays within a couple tenths, don't want to be chasing it. I also use KT120's
    LeGrace
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    Post by LeGrace Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:55 pm

    You continue to follow in my footsteps. I will reiterate prior advice, look into adding autobias module.
    Mr C
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    Post by Mr C Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:00 pm

    Yesterday the 2W 10 ohm resistor arrived and I got it in place. It's holding it's bias and sounding fantastic once again.

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