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    Post by Bob Latino Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:27 pm

    Many know about the older Dynaco PAS-2 and PAS-3 preamps and the more modern mid '90's Dynaco PAS-4 built by Panor. There was, however, a transitional model built in the early '90's also by Panor > the PAS-3 Series II. The circuits of all three preamps were different. The tube line-up for each preamp was ...

    PAS-2 and PAS-3 > four 12AX7 tubes
    PAS-3 Series II > six 12AX7 tubes
    PAS-4 > two 12AX7 (phono section) and four 6DJ8 (6922) (line section) tubes

    PAS-3 Series II composite photo below

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    Post by Corona Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:40 am

    Interesting...
    I wonder if all 6 12ax7's are really necessary or if they just added extra tubes for the look like some chinese amps on ebay.
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    Post by Sal Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:54 am

    Probably 4 12AX7's for the phono stage and 2 for the line stage.

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    Post by GP49 Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:01 pm

    Or...and this would have been a worthwhile addition if done properly...a cathode follower for both channels of the phono stage and the linestage, to make the circuitry almost unaffected by the input impedance of whatever is connected to the preamp.
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    Post by Bob Latino Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:22 pm

    Below is the PAS-3 Series II schematic less the power supply. You can judge for yourself how the three 12AX7's per channel were worked into the circuit.

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    Post by GP49 Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:00 pm

    Cathode followers, they are!
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    Post by dyna1 Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:49 pm

    Hi, Bob, thank-you for the link, but I believe I cannot see the values of the 3 caps. Would you happen to know someone that may have the complete schematics.

    Regards Sandro
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    Post by Bob Latino Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:38 pm

    Email sent ... That is the only schematic that I have and it does not show the power supply caps. Also - In the manual - there is no schematic. I do not know the value of those three caps.

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    Post by dyna1 Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:30 pm

    Thank-you for your time, if ever happen to find out I would love to have these values. Are able to post a request on your site. Thank-you again for all your help and time.

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    Post by fedoragent Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:37 pm

    Thanks Bob, that was great to see. How long were they sold? Were they a limited production?

    Thanks,

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    Post by DynakitParts Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:56 pm

    Hi,
    There were two versions offered...One with the Chrome faceplate & knobs (like the photo above)
    and the other with a Black faceplate & knobs. Both were designed & sold through Sound Values in Ohio...Jon & Joy Petterson I believe were the owners. I suspect that not many of these units were produced...I would guess a few hundred at best.


    Some time later Panor Corp. began making their own version of this PAS. I actually have a few of the "Sound Values" PAS Series II NOS power transformers on the shelf.....PC mounted style.

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    Post by DarthBubba Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:38 pm

    Bob Latino wrote:Below is the PAS-3 Series II schematic less the power supply. You can judge for yourself how the three 12AX7's per channel were worked into the circuit.

    Oh my goodness, both stereo channels in each tube envelope!
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    Post by GP49 Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:15 pm

    Nobody ever said Panor was the brightest bulb in the box. They bought "Dynaco" for the name, but did not have the engineering prowess to match the reputation.
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    Post by StereoGaryo Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:42 pm

    The PAS-4 has four tubes in the phono section: Two 12AX7's and a pair of 6922's. The line stage has the remaining pair of 6922's.
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    Post by StereoGaryo Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:46 pm

    GP49 wrote:Nobody ever said Panor was the brightest bulb in the box.  They bought "Dynaco" for the name, but did not have the engineering prowess to match the reputation.

    The PAS-4 was the exception regarding a well engineered, Panor unit. It was designed by John Nunes of MFA fame.
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    Post by suzerain Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:52 am

    dyna1 wrote:Hi, Bob, thank-you for the link, but I believe I cannot see the values of the 3 caps. Would you happen to know someone that may have the complete schematics.

    Regards Sandro

    Hey Dyna 1,
    I measured my 3 silver non labeled power supply caps on my restored knight cap tester.
    The fourth is labeled on the can wrapper.
    I too wanted to recap the power supply so I needed to know the capacitance.
    Each cap measured very close to 150uF.
    I ordered and installed 3 of those at 450Vdc with 10mm lead spacing and they slid right into position.
    The fourth had 8mm lead spacing but pc board had extra hole for 10mm lead spaced cap.
    Very good selection at Mouser, I picked Cornell Dublier.
    Pre amp running just fine and sounds even better, if that is really possible.

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