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    Post by Bob Latino Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:23 pm



    Check out this simple method for cleaning vinyl records ... Basically a liquid soap and water wash. Then a dry cloth to remove all the rinse water followed by a wipe down with WD-40 to lubricate the grooves and (more importantly) remove the static electricity from the surface so that the record won't attract dust. A before and after playback of a Linda Ronstadt record is shown for demonstration purposes..

    1. Playback as the record is
    2. Playback after the soap and water cleaning and drying
    3. Playback after the application of WD-40

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    Post by ramon68 Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:54 am

    I, like a fool, have spent the last 60 plus years avoiding getting finger prints on my LPs, only to learn that it's OK to wash LPs in tap water if followed up with a good schmear
    of WD40.
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    Post by WLT Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:33 am

    There is much written on the internet about record cleaning. Using water seems to be universally accepted. Using soap and tap water has been questioned. Using WD40 has gotten a great big...NO!

    Most of the commercially available record cleaning systems specify distilled water. That makes sense as there are no minerals in it. and it is cheap. Soap could also leave a residue but it you rinse it well it probably is not an issue. The big issue is the WD40. It will leave a residue that may harden or react with the vinyl over time. If you wash your records regularly it is doubtful any residue would be a problem. The longer you leave the residue to contact your records the more of an issue this could be.

    I use the Spin Clean product with distilled water and a capful of denatured alcohol. No WD40 follow up. Wash the records after a few playings. It seems to work great and is easy to do. I just feel better about not having residue on the vinyl when I put them away. I can not say that the records sound as good or better than the records treated with WD40.
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    Post by Bob Latino Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:36 am

    ramon68 wrote:I, like a fool, have spent the last 60 plus years avoiding getting finger prints on my LPs, only to learn that it's OK to wash LPs in tap water if followed up with a good schmear
    of WD40.

    The thing to remember is to NOT spray the WD-40 on to the record. Spray the WD-40 on to a soft cloth and do exactly what is shown on the video. Wipe the record in the same direction as (parallel to) the grooves.

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    Post by Peter W. Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:51 am

    For this discussion, it would be useful to understand what WD-40 is, and also what it is not.

    https://www.wd40.com/files/pdf/msds-wd482671453.pdf  

    Is what it is.

    What it is not:
    a) A lubricant. Its lubricating properties are brief as it is 100% volatile.
    b) Persistent. It is 100% volatile. This bears repeating! Eventually, depending on external conditions, within hours or days, it will ALL go away.
    c) If it combines with any other materials during application, that material will be left behind, often evenly distributed.
    d) For this reason, WD-40 is often accused of leaving a "gummy mess" behind. No, it ain't nohow the WD-40, it is whatever materials it picked up left behind by the evaporation process - much as water leaves any dissolved minerals behind when it evaporates.

    WD-40 contains a surfactant - this combines with residual water, and helps remove it. Hence the name: W-ater D-isplacement, 40th Try. I need to repeat: WD-40 is not, never was, nor is it meant to be a lubricant.

    Guys and gals, and with all due respect to all sides of this story, I would not let WD-40 anywhere near my vinyl records, and for a number of reasons, mostly having to do with protecting the stylus.
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    Post by ramon68 Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:11 am

    EXACTLY! Protecting the stylus.
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    Post by Dave_in_Va Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:44 am

    For what it's worth...

    I use an Okki Nokki vacuum record washer.
    In a one liter bottle I mix half distilled water, half isopropyl alcohol (the no additive kind) and 2-3 drops of dishwashing liquid as a surfactant.
    For the rinse rotation I have a spray bottle of distilled water.
    I'm not saying it's the best or perfect but it works and it's inexpensive.
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    Post by ramon68 Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:37 am

    My recipe is 4 parts distilled water to 1 part lab grade isopropyl alcohol and a few drops surfactant to break the surface tension of the water.
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    Post by Jedidiah Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:04 pm

    I cannot type NOPE enough times.
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    Post by Pillo69 Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:58 pm

    There Are Many ways to clean vinyl.
    I use an ultrasonic machine.
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    Post by t8ter Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:28 am

    You know someone will try this!
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    Post by scrotuss Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:01 pm

    My wife has a small collection of vintage "i.e., as old as I am" dolls, some of which really need a trip to the beauty parlor.  Researching doll collecting websites, I found (in more than one place), WD-40 is a great doll hair cleaner. Who wudda known?
    RE: its use as a record cleaner- If it is gone in a day, how could it affect your stylus?  Or is the implication that you wont wait for it to totally evaporate?
    I'm toying with the idea of buying a JICO SAS stylus for my V15-III, and I'd hate to see that money go down the toilet due to WD-40 buildup.
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    Post by ramon68 Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:57 pm

    Did you notice in the picture in the first post, the guy has his thumb and palm resting on the record's playing surface? Do not take record cleaning advice from anyone who would do that.
    I have managed to handle thousands of LPs for the last 60 years without getting finger prints on the playing surface, so I know even an idiot can do it.
    Forget WD40 and get a decent record cleaning machine.
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    Post by vtshopdog Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:16 am

    scrotuss wrote:
    I'm toying with the idea of buying a JICO SAS stylus for my V15-III, and I'd hate to see that money go down the toilet due to WD-40 buildup.

    SAS + V15-III is my combo.  Do it, do it, do it!  (The SAS, not WD40)  I love that stylus.  Are you going to order straight from Japan?  Was significantly cheaper when I got mine several years back.
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    Post by ArlanB Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:25 pm

    +1 on the SAS.  I have a JICO SAS with a boron cantilever that I purchased for my M97xE two years ago and have not looked back.  Made a world of difference in the performance of the cartridge.  I also have a JICO VN35HE stylus on my V15III which is similar to the original stylus. Works for me. Again the performance is right up there.  So I have no reservations in recommending the SAS.

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