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    6550 replacing KT66 in VTA ST-70

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    Post by Brap Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:54 pm

    Got my Nesstone 6550's and installed them. Could not get bias below 1.4v, not close to the recommended .500v. Put by KT66's back in and biased easily to .450V. Any suggestions? Built my VTA ST-70 back in 2013.
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    Post by peterh Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:17 pm

    Brap wrote:Got my Nesstone 6550's and installed them.  Could not get bias below 1.4v, not close to the recommended .500v. Put by KT66's back in and biased easily to .450V.  Any suggestions?  Built my VTA ST-70 back in 2013.
    get new kt88 ( or even better EL34 )
    6550 needs grid resistors < 50k , above that ( vta has 270k) all bets are off.
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    Post by Brap Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:53 pm

    thanks -- makes sense. I'll check into KT-88's (like the look) but am partial to Gold Lion and hard to find since the crisis and VERY pricy. Love the sound of my KT-66's but they are coming up on 9 years old so looking for replacements. Could not find any so I went the 6550 route without doing ore research on internal changes required. What's the best "flavor" of KT-88's out there other than GL?\ in VTA ST-70?
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    Post by peterh Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:00 pm

    Brap wrote:thanks -- makes sense.  I'll check into KT-88's (like the look) but am partial to Gold Lion and hard to find since the crisis and VERY pricy. Love the sound of my KT-66's but they are coming up on 9 years old so looking for replacements. Could not find any so I went the 6550 route without doing ore research on internal changes required. What's the best "flavor" of KT-88's out there other than GL?\ in VTA ST-70?
    The best flavor is EL34. It's also the best economic and widely available. In addition it
    works fine with the VTA-70.
    In my i run JJ KT88 but that is a side effect of customer returning these and a cannot
    sell them as new. Normally EL34 works fine.


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    Post by Bob Latino Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:42 pm

    The bias system in the VTA ST-70 is set up to bias EL34, KT66, KT77 or 6L6 output tubes. If you want to use KT88's or 6550's in a VTA ST-70, all you have to do is reduce the value of R39 on the driver board. R39 controls the "range" of the bias system. All VTA ST-70's are shipped with a 7.5K 1/2 watt resistor for R39. This is fine for the four output tubes mentioned above. To set up the amp for 6550 or KT88 output tubes, REDUCE THE VALUE of R39 to about 1000 ohms (1Kohms). This change will allow you to dial in more negative DC voltage which is more appropriate for 6550 or KT88 output tubes. R39 is appropriately placed on the BOTTOM of the driver board between the two 100 uF caps that stick up from the bottom rear of the driver board. See photo below.

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    Post by Brap Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:52 am

    Thanks much Bob. Will probably opt to get EL34's or KT 77 so I can swap without making chassis changes.
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    Post by truebluephil Sat May 07, 2022 4:46 pm

    I have used EL34, Kt-66 and Kt-88 and all work well in the amp. But the Kt-66 tubes are the best sounding tube for this amp. if you listen to Blues and Jazz its a perfect tube.

    Happy listening

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    Post by Brap Mon May 09, 2022 10:29 am

    I fully agree on KT-66 with the VTA ST-70. Truly enjoy mine. I will stay with these, just waiting for the price to get back to "normal". $90.00 each is a bit stiff for GL's.
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    Post by truebluephil Tue May 10, 2022 9:35 pm

    Brap wrote:I fully agree on KT-66 with the VTA ST-70. Truly enjoy mine. I will stay with these, just waiting for the price to get back to "normal". $90.00 each is a bit stiff for GL's.


    I was lucky as as saw this shit show coming with Russia so I bought 8 of them. Hopefully this will go away soon and return back to normal.
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    Post by Brap Thu May 12, 2022 8:19 am

    So are these your personal stash or are you inclined to sell 4 of them?
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    Post by truebluephil Sat May 14, 2022 12:11 pm

    Brap wrote:So are these your personal stash or are you inclined to sell 4 of them?

    sorry they are for my personal supply

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